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    It’s pretty hard to form a labor union as long as it remains legal to just fire the entire workplace’s staff and replace them all, and that will remain legal as long as people keep voting for anti-union politicians.

    Leftist organizations and mutual aid networks already exist in good number, and that’s great, but it doesn’t put good politicians in office. The one and only thing that decides who’s in office is voting.

    I would like to remind you that if voting didn’t do anything, no one would be trying to stop people from voting.

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      You are literally just making excuses for doing nothing… exactly as I thought. If voting changed anything they would make it illegal.

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        They’ve been trying. Various voter-suppression campaigns have been the subject of news reports for over a decade now. By your own reasoning, therefore, voting must be effective.

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          Those voter suppression tactics are 2 capitalist parties arguing over whose rich donors are gonna get kickbacks. Not any meaningful change.

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            Nonsense. Only one party has been imposing onerous ID requirements, removing polling places from opposition-heavy areas, and falsely claiming that vote-by-mail is rife with fraud.

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              The Dems couldn’t even protect abortion rights. I don’t know if you noticed but things have been going backwards. The problem is capitalism and you can’t fight it from within. Dems are a lost cause and you are actively hurting those who want real change by directing their anger into an institution that doesn’t give a shit about anything but their donors. You are delusional my brother and I hope one day you will see it.

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                The Dems couldn’t even protect abortion rights.

                They never had a sufficient majority with which to do so. (Manchin and Sinema don’t count.)

                The problem is capitalism and you can’t fight it from within.

                Maybe it is, but that doesn’t make voting ineffective. Capitalism, too, can be voted out.

                You are delusional

                Please refrain from insulting me. This is not Reddit.

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                  Fine naive then if you find that less insulting. You are Charlie Brown trying to kick the football and the Dems are Lucy snatching the ball and making you look like a fool.