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  • Your’e right people are not lying, they just don’t realize what they have done to break it.

    I’m running a fresh Debian stable build for the past 2-3 days, with NO apt package installed(other than flatpak), no other modifications, vanilla as vanilla gets, only flatpaks installed.

    So far: On first install, apt upgrade was broken… lol… yeah.

    Other than that, it freezes on suspend, and I’m getting weird screen flickering that it’s really hard to troubleshoot so far, specially because when I turn on OBS it mysteriously just doesnt happen. Also steam doesnt open up sometimes, sometimes it does, depends on if you’re feeling lucky or not, it also doesnt respect the DE settings, so when it does open the scale is wrong, and everything is tiny.

    And this is with a distro known to be stable.



  • If you think that’s the case. Check some big forums for each big distro right after a point update to read the tales of woe and breakage.

    My personal experience with this has been:

    Pop_OS broke after an update. Unrepairable as far as I could tell. And I tried hard. Happened to multiple.people there was a reddit thread about it.

    Fedora broke on an update. Not sure if repairable. I didn’t try. I had the most boring vanilla installation possible.

    Arch has been unbootable twice over the years. And had to do many manual interventions. Both times it was fixable.

    People are not lying to you when they say it breaks randomly. Just because it wasn’t your personal experience doesn’t mean it isn’t a common experience. You just have been lucky so far.



  • Your points are all entirely fair. It also surprises me how quite a few people don’t get it.

    And it’s not that many requisites to fix it either.

    A) don’t break shit on updates. This is the worst thing that could happen.

    B) There needs to be a clicky app store. Just one. No options. No pick your repos. No pick between flatpak and whatever else. Just a visual app store you click an app and it install. You click to remove it gets removed.

    It’s seriously not that much you’d think.

    Having that said. If you do choose to endure through the learning curve. It’s mostly worth it. But fuck. It’s such a dumb self imposed learning curve.