Yep, but it’s really easy to mess up and make it touch the really hot parts.

Well, that’s not ideal, my 3D printer has some PTFE tubing and while I mostly print at maximum of 250˚C, there are some materials I wanted to try that need larger temperatures. Thanks for the info!

PTFE is dangerous?

Tomatoes are vegetables. If we’re speaking botanically, then squash, pumpkins, cucumbers, peppers, eggplants, corn kernels, and bean are also fruit. US supreme court ruled that they’re vegetables. EU declared tomatoes to be fruit for the purpose of making jam, though.

That’s not how AI works. For example, just a while ago I was generating one image for fun (which I don’t claim is art, by the way), it’s this:

The prompt was quite simple, “anthropomorphic bean standing in a field of beans”.

This is not created from a bunch of pictures, this is created from the AI understanding what a bean is, what anthropomorphic means, what a field is and so on. Try to find me any one image this is created from if you claim it’s just slapping together parts of images. This is an original image (which presumably was never done before, at least I don’t think anyone would create something like that very often), I can’t find any that looks enough like the one I created to claim it was copied from that. I looked for visually similar images using Google, Bing and Yandex.

That leads me to believe, that it’s indeed the same process as a human would do - take an inspiration (from real world or different paintings) and create something new.

AI is a tool like any other. You can’t say that art made with some tool is not art just because you don’t like the tool. When photography came around, there were people saying it’s not a real art because it does everything for you.

A world where banana taped on a wall is art, but something you spend many hours tailoring to your vision is not, well, that’s not a world I can agree with. How can we claim some random splashes are art just because there’s some vision behind them and at the same time claim that AI art created with some vision is not?

Yeah, I think we’re done here, I thought I was here for a conversation. Seems I was mistaken. Maybe you’re the problem you were running from?

Yeah, no. I would probably say more, but your “lmao” makes me think you’re not actually interested.

Call it lazy or conspiratorial if you want, I don’t particularly care. This is not one of those cases where you can convince me. Selling art for millions is for tax evasion or money laundering and that’s what I’ll probably always believe because it’s the only thing that makes sense to me. And making a fable about how the random splashes actually mean anything else than that you can’t really paint is IMO stupid. You wanted to tell something with your painting? How about you told it with the painting instead of some commentary that’s needed for anyone to actually see anything there?

Nah, most likely not millions (I don’t have friends who need to launder money, so only people who actually think random shapes are art would buy). The rest of the comment I agree with, I have second-hand embarrassment every time I see someone praise random shapes.

Because I feel ashamed enough when I see “artists” put it out there. I’m not planning on being ashamed of myself.

My toddler doesn’t have any dirty money that need cleaning, so it’s very unlikely her random splashes will sell for millions.

Yeah, let’s put some banana on a wall to make some real art.

You don’t know much about AI it seems. The super realistic ones are not just a filter over existing images, in fact they take as long to create as the non-realistic ones. I have a fairly shit computer (for AI, in general it’s ok but it only has 4 GB VRAM) and I made some realistic images. Like this one: https://i.imgur.com/1qUK0BM.png

How you don’t see that in principle AI data training and human learning is the same process, is fascinating to me.

What people make is not original as well, you’re always inspired by something.

I don’t understand people like you. Seems to me like exactly the ones who destroyed machines few centuries ago because they would take our jobs. Turns out they didn’t. And AI will succeed as well and it won’t put as all into unemployment.

Yeah, I do. I play with AI from time to time and people don’t realize creating the correct prompts is a skill in itself, it’s not just some magical doodad that does what you want out of the box. AI generated stuff is OC if you’re the one who made it.

That wasn’t the question, though.

I went PC -> Switch -> Steam Deck. Also briefly PS1 when I was a kid. I’m a PC gamer at heart, probably gonna stick with it.