So you’re posting to lemmy form mastodon … that’s awesome! (genuinely).

There are a few little formatting things you can do to make it work slightly better however …

You can see what your post looks like here: lemmy.ml/post/2253666

1. Treat the first line of the post as the heading (as that’s what lemmy does).
2. So keep it clean and avoid putting ats or hashtags in the first line as they’ll create links that make it look messy
3. Otherwise, make sure to keep the lemmy community as the first at-tag in the post (eg @ asklemmy @ lemmy.ml). Lemmy will only use the first one.
4. Besides that, you can at-tag anyone else you like and use hashtags, just as you have here, as much as you like.

If it’s at all helpful, here’s a quick demo of posting to lemmy from mastodon, with more posts in the thread to illustrate how it can all work together: https://hachyderm.io/users/maegul/statuses/110483509521476095

RIght! Good to hear.

Yea mastodon.social opened back up. And from what I gather they put up a kubernetes cluster so that they can scale easily, which is exactly what they’re doing.

I’m not sure what you’re referring to actually by “made it to Fosstodon”. Both mastodon.social and fosstodon would be running the same software, unless fosstodon are running some sort of fork which would make sense.

I was referring to how mastodon.social is by the largest mastodon instance (like it’s not even close) and is run by the mastodon group/company itself who have control over the software, app, joinmastodon.org web page etc. That’s getting pretty centralised.

Case in point, around May mastodon altered their mobile apps to set mastodon.social as the default server for creating a new account. Since then basically all new mastodon accounts have been only on mastodon.social. Now making the server selection process easier for newcomers makes a lot of sense, but it didn’t need to be done in a way that both highlighted and amplified the already notable centralisation. At the time a bunch of people got upset and pointed out alternatives. But mastodon the company didn’t say anything and of course there wasn’t anything anyone could do. And now, mastodon.social grows by about the same size of the next biggest english speaking mastodon instance every couple of months and no one likes to talk about it because they can’t do anything. By reasonable approximations, the fediverse is mastodon, and mastodon is becoming mastodon.social.

Numerically, by Monthly Active Users (MAUs) mastodon is ~85% of the fediverse, and mastodon.social is ~25% of all of mastodon, or, ~22% of all of the fediverse. (See fedidb)

Something like that happening with lemmy seems less likely, even far less likely, just because of the flatter power dynamics.

Woah! Talk about influential legend!

The core devs have always been pretty open about how they don’t want lemmy.ml to be “the flagship instance”. To them, it’s just the instance that they run, and so happens to have the history of being the biggest instance back when lemmy was growing its user base.

They actively encouraged new/other instances be created and pushed new users during the reddit migration to other instances, rarely listing their own instance in the list of recommended instances on join-lemmy.

So it’s not the flagship, and intentionally so. And while lemmy.world is the biggest by far, it is also arguably not the flagship either due to the lack of having the core devs or contributors as admins of that instance. All of which means lemmy has done something most other platforms have struggled with (I’m looking at you mastodon.social!), which is flattening the power structure amongst the devs and admins such that there is no real flagship, an all around good thing IMO.

Darren Aronofsky’s Pi. I’ve watched 3 times, each separated by a decent amount of time, and I think the third was my favourite.

Its short runtime (84 mins) is I suspect a major factor in this. Nowadays it’s almost like rewatching a favourite episode of a beloved Sci-Fi.

Interesting. I’ve only seen it once … should watch again I guess!

OK, I couldn’t help myself, and checked GItHub. Seems the issue may have been fixed hours ago. Don’t know when the new version will ship though.

Seems the issue may been to do with the process that updates the ranks of posts not being able to catch up to older posts, and so they show up with out of date ranks/scores. That process has been optimised, apparently, and should have no problem keeping up with all of the posts.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3617

Yep, that looks bad (obviously). I just went to the science community, sorted by Hot, and yea similar things appear towards the bottom of the feed.

Seems like the sort of thing that would be a minor and fixable bug. I don’t have time to chase down github issues right now, but I’ll try checking older communities to spot these occurrences. Naively I’d guess something like dates or vote-scored being truncated badly or something.

Thanks!!

Links to Communities or Instances?

FWIW, just checked mine and no problems (and I’m subscribed to plenty of communities).

Totally with you.

Thanks for the chat … and Awesome!

Oh yea … that character limit man … once you have a decent one (>2000) you can’t go back!!

I’ve actually though of suggesting to some communities that do regular posts like star trek’s episode threads to post them from a mastodon account just to get some engagement.

It’d be cool if there was some bot that made this easier.

The answer to such questions is almost always “Because someone hasn’t done it yet”.

As others have mentioned, this platform has grown drastically over the past month and so the devs are somewhat preoccupied with what they’ve prioritised for the platform as a whole. This feature though is on the radar, as others have said.

A quick fix that I actually think would help be just in the UI, where the user can group the communities they’re subscribed to into what ever groups they like, so that it becomes easier to browse through communities individually by topic.

Not cheating at all! It should be happening more IMO!

• First, there’s a lot of parallel chatter and interests kept separate because people are on different platforms.
• Second, bringing down the boundaries between instances and platforms (so that don’t all have to use screenshots all the time) is what the fediverse is about)
• Third, using existing communities and platforms to activate new communities and platforms is supposed to a super power of the fediverse, as it makes it easier and easier to kickstart new things as the fediverse grows
• Fourth, and getting back to the second above, the fediverse’s “killer app”, IMO, is the eventual creation of a diversity of communities and platforms that interoperate in a useful, flexible and engaging way for the user.

At the moment, I’m actually frustrated at the lack of cross platform engagement between lemmy/kbin and mastodon. A big part of it, IMO, is the simplicity of mastodon’s UI and how integrating with any other platform with a more sophisticated UI becomes difficult. Right now, for instance, mastodon has no nice way to deal with a community/magazine or a post with multiple threads of comments beneath it, as all mastodon does is see everything as a flattened stream of posts in reverse chronological order.

Right now, posting from mastodon to a community is the only way to bring these worlds together that works for users of both platforms, except for the user making the post, which is a problem.

Yea posting from mastodon to lemmy is a nice way to join the two platforms actually.

I keep encouraging mastodon users to do it more, as they don’t have any groups and hashtags and not great IMO.

For those interested, I’ve written a little demo of doing so from mastodon, with comments/replies that provide links to the resulting lemmy post: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/110483509521476095. If you think it’s helpful, feel free to share it around to anyone else you know that might be interested in posting to lemmy from mastodon.

Ah … right … yea I’ve seen that happen occasionally … I had actually presumed that something had been changed with that post, perhaps by an admin or something cleaning stuff up, and that triggered a new timestamp for the post.

Maybe still a bug. I’ll keep track now of when it happens as it might help sort it out.

But still, that’s rarely the case for me. Just went down a fair way in my feed now and there wasn’t a single occurrence of it. Could it be particular communities causing it, maybe from instances on older software?

Otherwise though, Hot seems to do what I’d want. Combine with a bit of New or Top for an appropriate time window and I’m all good.

For comments, Hot/New/Top all do what I’d want too.

Hmmm … it seems fine to me. I’d heard it was broken before though.

In what way is it broken?

On lemmy the default is Active, which basically boosts any post that still has some recent chatter going on but is otherwise “stale”. In the settings though you can change the default sort. I’ve gone with Hot, which is I think the default sort on kbin too.

Can you change the default sort on kbin? I could work how to.

A working link: https://alexandrite.app

Also https://vger.app/ for mobile.

If you’re on lemmy.world, they’ve put vger natively on the instance at m.lemmy.world.

Yes you can follow users on kbin, which you can’t do on lemmy, and this applies to both users on mastodon/mblogs and lemmy/kbin.

However, from what I can gather, kbin is still community/magazine focused. For instance, I don’t think you can get a feed of just the posts of those that you follow, as you would on mastodon. You can select the subscribed channel and then look microblogs, which can get you close, but is really a view of all the posts from the people you follow and that have the hashtags for all of the magazines you follow (I think). THe important bit here being that kbin puts posts form mastodon/mblogs into magazines based on hashtags, where each magazine can defined what hashtags it will “scoop up”. And so “subscribed microblogs” includes all of those posts tagged with hashtags scooped up by the communities/magazines you follow.

I have no idea what kbin’s road map is for this, but for me personally, who has a mastodon account on an instance I’m rather happy with, as well as this lemmy account, it doesn’t offer something that would prompt me to migrate as a user.

One thing I’m probably missing here is whether one can more easily post to both communities/magazines and one’s mastodon followers from kbin. I don’t know enough about whether that is so and why and how far lemmy would be from achieving the same, but at this point in the fediverse’s development, it’s a not insignificant factor, as, IMO, so many are on mastodon and other microblog platforms that bridging that gap is vital to creating a sustainable and healthy ecosystem of platforms on the fediverse.