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I’m a bit late, sorry.
I disagree with that. A large defederation would make an impact, which I think would cause some loss of the growing portion of normal people here.
I guess for the final thoughts I’ll ask, how much do you trust Facebook/Meta here? I said this before, but I consider them a risk not worth taking.
I’m gonna try just a bit more.
Meta can’t buy the fediverse, like Google couldn’t buy XMPP. XMPP userbase was consumed regardless. My main point is that if allowed to grow into the largest or one of the largest instances, Meta has the ability to cause a lot of damage.
What can they do? They might add new features, such as custom reactions, or new types of post embeds, or something. Developers now have to choose between having broken posts, or trying to catch up Zuckerberg’s nonstandards, like if it were the browser wars.
When the average user sees broken posts or can’t follow their favourite people anymore because of defederation, they just have a reason to move to a better instance (Threads or some other instance that hasn’t defederated). Defederation works if done early. If it’s done too late, only the hardcore Meta haters will be left.
That’s the worst case. Given their track record, they will use an opportunity to backstab us. I don’t know what I will say if people just let Meta pull an EEE that everyone saw from a mile away. In any case, I consider Meta a massive risk for not much benefit (do we even want a wave of Meta users?).
You forgot the biggest concern that people have.
Remember that Meta’s strategy has always been to buy out or kill competitors before they grow too big. This time, when the competitor is immune to normal methods, they’re all so friendly and cooperative. Why the complete 180, did they suddenly turn good?
Please read this: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
Is your mind changed?
I’m in Europe. Been using Vultr, it’s good. Now looking at Hetzner for better prices and a server that’s actually in my country.
I’m sure they have their eyes peeled at a growing competitor, but is there anything weird or creepy about this?
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My local newspaper attempted “well argumented” and “agree/disagree” scores years ago. Later they removed the “agree” score, and I recall some accusations of orwellian moderation, but I think this is a cool idea that deserves more experimentation.
I like the thought behind this idea but I don’t think it’s a good solution. It requires having a reputation score, which I think outweighs the positives here. I could also see people trying to play this system in a couple different ways, which is just plain bad for discussion culture: encourage others to downvote something without spending the reputation yourself, or collect downvotes with bait content in order to eat through other peoples reputation.
Could you link that? I don’t see an obvious benefit, but it sounds interesting.
Downvotes aren’t intended for the subject of the news, but for OP for making the post. If you hate the subject, I guess the correct action is to express it in the comments, or give an upvote if someone else already did.
A karma score encourages making poor quality meme posts and comments in large quantities to gain more fake internet points. It’s easily abused; Reddit is full of karma farming bots.
No downvotes was also mentioned here, but I heavily disagree. Downvotes, in my opinion are for a large part a positive thing. Youtube hiding downvotes was a move towards a “good vibes only, no criticism allowed” type of environment. Remember the reaction when Ubisoft promoted some stupid NFT bs there?
Downvotes allow users to express disapproval of content, even if it isn’t strictly against the rules of the particular community. I believe there’s a very clear intermediary between “good” content and something that’s so bad it has to be removed by moderators. Ignoring it or having it erased by mods are both worse solutions.
Lemmy pretty much meets my ideal in this regard, it has downvotes and doesn’t have a broken social credit system.
Edit: Expanded the comment quite a lot
Don’t have an answer, but I’d like to point out that federation doesn’t work with tor.