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Cake day: June 9th, 2023

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  • How could you save a png then? We’re talking about digital files where you can absolutely copy a file without facing any legal repercussions for doing so. Copy paste is the same as making a copy of a work and would make sense under copyright law to be illegal. But its not because that’s ridiculous, and no one will ever be charged for going to Google image search and looking at a copyrighted picture on the screen. Its also not illegal for humans to learn from the art of someone else and then create similar art. I dont know how you can or would be able to even detect that someone has trained an AI for this purpose. Training modern AI with pre-made models to draw a specific person or character in a specific art style is trivial. Its hard to do it if you’re unfamiliar but it requires very few training materials to become very effective. ControlNet and LORA have made this possible. So how could you even tell if someone made such a model, they’ve only downloaded a dozen pictures and there is no effective way to tell that they’ve then trained this model. It would have to come down to their creations being noticeable enough to charge them. Either through profiting from it or by posting that content online.

    Personal use is a misnomer by me, what I meant was fair use.


  • Yes, and personal use exists so that people who are not profiting in any way off of someone else’s copyright are not chargeable under copyright law. Hence why I can download a jpg of an artists painting and that action alone is not breaking any law.

    If my AI is not being used to make money, and it is also not being used to slander someone or harass someone, then what law exactly would I be breaking? How would I be harming someone else, by having an AI that I use solely personally and am in no way benefiting from? Can you sue someone for taking a DVD, ripping it, and then rearranging the scenes in a new video file? Have they broken a law solely by creating a derivative work using the original material, even if that work is not making them money and they are commiting no other crime using that work?









  • But we can, its the internet. Why shouldn’t we be able to delete things? I’m not a ceo, I’m not a politician. The world has no vested interest in preserving a post i make. I should have control of my data. I seriously cannot fathom how anyone could possibly argue otherwise. I’m an ordinary civilian, and my data should belong to me and I should be able to have it deleted if I so choose. Note that every single massive social media platform essentially by law has to provide you means to do this. Lemmy should not be exempt from this. Whats the point of leaving reddit to join another platform that doesn’t respect its user base? It’s nonsense.

    And I never said it was illegal (I specified the opposite actually), but its obviously wrong to walk up to 2 people sitting on a park bench having a quiet conversation between the two of them and record it without even asking them.


  • I mean, we can absolutely want that. And data farming is bad. Just objectively. Having a conversation in a public area irl isn’t consent to being recorded (not that it is always illegal to do so). And Why should it be on the internet? If the delete option doesn’t actually delete anything, it should clearly reflect that. I have no idea why you would argue against user control of their data.


  • Lemmy is never going to handle an entire migration of reddit’s whole user base. Most redditors use the official app, and the mainstream audience for the platform now represents the largest user group. They’re not going to wholesale make the jump to Lemmy. That wouldn’t even be possible without widespread coordination of resources. Each instance can only handle so many users, so new instances will have to continually be created to accommodate influx. Theres no profit incentive either, meaning whoever is running the instance server is purely doing it out of their passion for the platform. That doesn’t scale linearly, there’s only so many people out there with the resources to run a large instance.

    Measuring the cost isn’t possible. It depends on electricity and equipment costs which vary a lot. And the question doesn’t make sense either.


  • Lemmy is not supposed to replace reddit. Lemmy is it’s own thing that has already existed for years now. The benefit of Lemmy over individual forums is the interconnectivity of separate communities and being able to view content from multiple communities in one single feed. You can subscribe to communities and view all your subscribed community posts in one feed. Theres also the All sort on the main page, which essentially functions as Lemmy front page. Its also, as you said, not centrally controlled. So if one part fails the rest can continue as normal. That makes it pretty robust. But it isn’t meant to replace reddit, a massive social media platform with millions of users.


  • Archival efforts are underway by many archival teams.

    However you’re right, a lot of things will be lost forever. A lot of old viral reddit posts from 10+ years ago, that kind of thing will probably not make it out of this.

    That being said, screw reddit and screw spez. They’re the ones doing this. The site will be un-moderateable anyway once 3rd party mod tools are banned, so it’s going to be barely usable anyway through their broken app.

    In a broader sense this is just the way of the internet. Platforms rise to prominence, then slowly dwindle into irrelevance. It has happened many times before reddit and will happen many times again in the future. The amount of media lost in this exchange is monumental. So much of Web 1.0 and Web 2.0 is lost forever. It’s the transient nature of these kinds of spaces that makes them this way. For instance, archive team maintains a wiki index of all social media platforms that have ever gone down. You can see how much has already gone and you never even knew it was there to begin with.

    … but that probably didn’t help with your anxiety 😅 things will be okay. Communities will survive so long as people remain interested enough in them to continue gathering and talking and sharing together. Have faith in the communities you care about, and if you’d like to try you can always help organize a transition to a new platform :)